Bank Suggestions
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Show me the Money
I'm supposing that you are asking what we should do with the bank after we upgrade Kuro and Rath's level 5 weapon.
My suggestion is this: Hold everything else that we already have after upgrading kuro and rath's weapons to level 5, and sell it for gil(frenzy is always looking to buy ancient currency at fair market value). Then hold all the gil, and use it specifically to fund runs. This should be enough to sustain timeless hourglass purchases for quite some time.
Then, for current runs, have people sign up to use their points to lot currency just like you would gear. Make it like 1 point for single currency, and 50 points for 100s that may drop (you would have to have at least 50 points to secure 100s). You would only be able to secure one type of ancient currency, just like securing relic armor. This way, other people can start working on their own weapons if they so choose, and people who have a lot of points but don't want or already have the relic they need for their jobs can use their points.
Make it to where people sign up on the site ahead of time, and the banker lots the drops as normal. At the end, anyone who signed up for say 1 byne bills, will have it evenly distributed among those people for as many points as they can have. Any that aren't lotted (I don't see this happening at first but it could become an issue if points start to thin out) can be distributed evenly at the end of the month to every full time member whose status is "G".
100s that aren't secured (again, not gonna happen at first but i can see it happening in 4 months) are collected and then sold off to keep the ls bank between 5-10 mil, so that there is enough gil for each run. After attaining 10 mil for the bank, they should be /randomed upon evenly once a month on either of the two days evenly. This way, if you attend both days, you have a better chance at /randoming a 100 piece, and people who aren't there on sunday are able to try for a piece on wed's /randomfest.
I don't see any other way to make it both fair to the people coming into the ls and the people who have been here a long time and have a lot of points to get ancient currency. We all have our goals in ffxi, and everybody wants to work on a relic weapon, but most of us don't know how to start or how daunting the task at hand is. I think that this system would also push people in the right direction as far as attending the most amount of runs (because you don't get anything if you're attendance isn't good), and staying after you have all the relic you want for your character.
whatever we do with the bank, id like runs to still be free… for me that is a major point in being part of the ls: there is a trade off - you dont pay for runs but you dont get to lot money…..
big money could be securable but differently than the relic
id say to secure either big money or relic then out of al the people who secured big money get to lot then points removed from it: in this manner people who have a billion points wont constantly have an advantage
(small money still is for what we currently use it for: +1 upgrades etc…)
or
people could sign up on a list for their own relic upgrades (self-funding) who can "secure" the big money
also im working on my own self-funded relic katana; it would be nice to be supported in one manner or the other
I'm with Ichi on the paying for Dynamis. not having to pay for the run drawn me to this LS. if members have to pay for the run i see a few leaving including myself.
I have a couple ideas but they will require lots of work on the bankers end and thats not very fair to them. i will type it up later and post it in here.
any route we go i hope it still a funded event from the gil made from AC sales.
2 things that I've had in my head for a while:
Keep the relic upgrade but swap it so instead of doing the first 2 upgrades on your own and last 2 with shell we make it first 3 upgrade with shell (we get the dynamis benefit) and then the last one on your own if you want to get the super benefits outside. Honestly I think we should swap out to this one anyway.
I've also been bouncing around in my head a simple sale and split at the end of the month, keeping enough to pay for runs and maybe food items- although I worry that we'd have to get everyone to help find regular buyers for all currency types. We'd spend a lot of time figuring out how much we made and then distribution would need to be worked out. We'd probably take how many points were possible that month and make those equal 100% of the payout then people can choose to either cash some points in for gil or keep them to lot. And we'd have to do some sort of bonus every so often to let the people with lots of points use up a few extra points from their stash to thin out people sitting on 200+ points (I'd have to be against people liquidating -all- their points at once cause that just promotes people getting their cash and running off). I'm currently figuring out how much we make a month in coins (which is -not- the same as how much we sell. In this case I guess if people wanted to work on relic weapons they could cash points in or the actual coins or just save their dynamis gil specifically for that purpose and not touch it. Talking to a few people about it all I do worry that it might mess with the balance to push a lot of coins out at once. I do think it would be a nice bonus to get some gil ~ but the practicality of the idea is a bit rough (it's been in discussion for a long, long time). There is also the flooding of market causing prices to go down a bit which I'd worry about. And I -know- some are very against this idea, cause they feel working on relic is more for the benefit of the shell instead of people's own pockets.
I don't feel at this stage that if our coins went on the market after the two upgrades are finished that it would greatly affect the Carbuncle market, but as server populations change over the next few months that may change. I personally feel that whatever the majority of ls members want done with the currencies after these are done will be fine; however if there is a gil payout then we need to strictly do it according to attendance, otherwise there will be people upset.
I wouldn't worry about flooding the market with ancient currency, its like one of the only really proven stable items that is so engrossingly consumable. You could have a fire sale for the entire bank right now and 1-2 rich people could easily buy it up (and people look regularly for currency on sale) without reducing the market at all because it simply can't be resold after its used.
Unfortunately, a simple sell and split treats everyone equally who participated that month. The way I suggested (using points to lot 100s and 1 currency) gives those with a HUGE amount of points an outlet for those points while still letting new people or those who regularly spend their points a chance to lot currency as well.
Example: lets say you have Oldplayer and Newplayer (that would be their names). They both want currency. Oldplayer has 300 points, and he knows that he could pick up every "1 byne bill" that drops and spend 100 points for 100 bills. However, he's smart, and he knows he could more easily get a 100 byne bill for 50 points, so he chooses that option. In that way, they both have the option of lotting ancient currency without getting their toes stepped on, and after awhile, Oldplayer will eventually lot enough 100 bynes to chip away at his points until he is equal to Newplayer, representing time spent by Oldplayer in previous runs.
This way, we don't lose anyone, nobody has to pay for runs (the bank would still handle that), and with an equal investment of his own gil as he is lotting, a normal player can get a level 4 relic weapon in around 4ish years. i didn't throw numbers out at random, I researched how long it would take vs. how many average points are given out each run vs. how many currencies have a tendancy to drop and assumed an equal amount of investment from the player.
I almost like the upgrade first couple stages and user upgrades the last stage. but thats my greed talking. Burn a crap load of points to get couple relic stages paid for. count me in. a stage 4 would bennit the LS and if people wante dto do a stage 5 on there own. then we would have a buyer there from our own runs.
(account deleted)Dont get me wrong. I really like the idea of possibly making some gil on the side with dyna. However i see us getting members that are only there for the money and cause a huge rukus over stuff when they cant get what they want. I think considering a system whiere the ls still keeps all the money drops but pays the ppl that attend a certain set amount of gil or ancient currency based on the attendance. 20-30k a run maybe idk im not much for numbers. but at any rate. there is far too much greed in the world and i would rather not see this amazing linkshell fall because of something so stupid as gil and greed. Granted i see how ppl think that a ls that keeps all the money drops makes the leaders look like they are using ppls need for relic to line their pockets with gil. This is not the case as far as i have seen most of the money we get stays in a bank and is kept very professional. To the thought of relic upgrade as rath said. the dyna only upgrades? hell yes that sounds amazing. that would only make us better. ^^
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